Jo Nemeth

I don't know if that's an Australian word.

You're just using other people.

And, you know, in a way that's true.

I'm reliant on other people and I'm reliant on my community.

And at first I felt really bad about that, but I realized over time that we're all reliant on other people.

When we live with money, we still have underlying that economy, this gift economy that works in the background where we share and we give just naturally, mostly to friends and family.

And what happens is the more you gift and the more you share,

you build strong connections and you build a community around you.

And so that's what's happened for me in the last 10 years.

I've got these really strong connections and I can give eggs to people and eggs are really expensive apparently.

And I can make sauerkraut and I can make fermented kefir, mostly a lot of it with waste products that I collect and I can give that to people.

So there's all sorts of ways that we give

My life now is easier than it was before when I was living with money.

I don't want to go back to living with money.

That actually really scares me because living with money is really hard.

Yeah, totally.

Yeah, this lifestyle really suits me.

It wouldn't suit other people and other people would find it much harder.

And it does really help that I already had a good social, a good network of people around me because you really need that.

If you were a grumpy person who didn't like people and didn't like doing the kinds of household management jobs that I fill my days with, then this would be a terrible life.