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Jo Setchell

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The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

And initially, I did discover that the pinup animal, the most colorful animal, has the highest testosterone, is the highest ranking.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

And I thought, oh, yeah, so I'm really figuring out something here.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

He's probably the most important.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

And females do like to hang around the most colorful animal.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

but there are many other things that come into it too.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

So there is his color.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

There's also how nice he is.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

So if a male is brightly colored, but horrible, females are just not interested.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

And it turned out much later, when I alluded to their genetics, what they're really interested in is genes, and it's got nothing to do with the colour.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

Males and females.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

So males are incredibly colourful, so we focus on that.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

But if you didn't look at a male mandrill and you just saw a female mandrill, you'd notice that she was very pretty and very pink-coloured.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

So pink nose, blue facial stripes, very pretty.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

It's both.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

So yes, females definitely choose.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

Females have the advantage of being much smaller than males, which means that they can get around a lot more easily.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

I've seen males mate guarding a tree, thinking that their female is up the tree when the female has jumped out of the tree about 10 minutes ago and has run down, jumped into another tree, run down, run out of sight and turns up later with another male.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

I'm a female primatologist, so, yeah, that's the conclusion.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

So mandrills don't have that problem because their tail is only a few inches long.

The Infinite Monkey Cage
Monkey Business - Robin Dunbar, Dave Gorman and Jo Setchell

Immune genes, so the strength of the immune system, but not actually that.