Joanna Fleming

She's just, like, charming.

She's got an aura, for sure.

Presence.

Yeah, and I think the way that she's, like, approached her business and her personal brand, it's, like, so interesting.

Like, stuff that she says has started entering people's, like, daily speech.

Their vocabulary and stuff.

Yeah, like, what did she say?

Bro.

Or, like, unreal.

And I do also like how much she has, like, prioritised the people that she's always had in her life as well.

Like, her makeup artist she's worked with for years and years and years and she also styled her, like, has styled her in the past as well.

So she's, like, brought along these creatives and her friends that she's always had along in the journey.

So I think in that way she just feels, I don't know how to say it, like a nice person.

Yeah.

They got engaged in Italy.

No, no.

Yeah, she has so many elements.

Like the business and like she's like a fashion girl and like it is like so cool to see someone who's not straight sized.

I think it's so good, especially in an industry where I think, you know, there's a lot of pressure and I would say like a vast majority and a lot of representation that we see is

quite slim and skinny and straight size.