Joanna 'JoJo' Levesque

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172 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Nov 2024 last heard Nov 2024

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Like if it were someone who felt like me and who's sensitive like me, then I would be like, if you want to live a life of being an entertainer or an artist, do it because that's your worldview and you need to express and you need to connect and that's how you feel alive. But don't do it for fame or validation in that regard.
And my advice would be to make sure that you have other things in your life that make you feel good and connected and don't make everything about what you do. Make things about who you are too because we are more than what we produce and we're more than what people see on the highlight reels on Instagram and TikTok and whatever other social media platforms matter. So that's what I would say.
I don't know if that's what you were looking for.
Yes. Actually, you just crystallized it for me, and maybe it's going to change how I answer that in the future. So thank you for that. You're welcome. Because fall in love with the process. I mean, sports – People talk about this, sports people, I know nothing about sports, but I'm into sports psychology because it's related to the performer.
I mean, if you're in a performance industry, the psychology is similar. So athletes talk about falling in love with the process. You can't get attached to the result. So you really need to be like, I'm proud of myself. I did these things and I'm like, and that's, that needs to be enough because whether you're number one or you're not on the chart at all, That's been my experience.
I've had the highest of highs before I had my period. And then I spent a lot of my life chasing that, like an addict, basically, and being like, this is how I need to derive my sense of self-worth. And then being like, so what if I never reach that? Am I just going to be unhappy for the rest of my life? That's no way to live. So I do think that
learning how to step back, get back to basics and fall in love with the process also develops a muscle of like work ethic and self-trust and being proud of yourself and And having something to do and being actively a part of the process as opposed to just being like, I'm not really in control, blah, blah, blah. Control the things you can. It's hard. It's so hard.
I hope I'm not making it sound like it's hard.
And other successful songs throughout my career. But with those ones, I think people were telling me like, you should be the biggest pop star. And then there were things that were outside of my control. And I started to feel bad for myself. And then I started to feel like a victim. And people were like, you are a victim. And then I was like, maybe I am and blah, blah, blah.
So I think it was like a lot of that. But then me being like, then me finding my personal relationship with God and feeling more spiritual and then being like, what is life really about? And like, is it about chasing these things and blah, blah, blah. And then a lot of fear and then questioning and dark nights of the soul and all of that.
But yeah, to answer your question, I think it's, I'm sure it's similar to that, but I just want to celebrate you for the things that you've built and the way they pivoted you.
No, I get it. Both of us in our own regards have really defied the odds. You know, like the fact that we're sitting here and are at this point in our lives and careers and continuing to build and grow. And I just think that's really amazing. A lot of people would have buried their head in the sand.
Yes, some of the things, but most of the things are really being Unveiled for the first time in this book. And it's not like I was like, ta-da, I've been waiting all this time. It just felt like it was going to be liberating for me to hopefully connect with people who felt similar to me, which is I felt a lot of shame and embarrassment and guilt for different things in my life.
And I wanted to find a way to look at my life in a way where it was a celebration of overcoming and of doing the best with the cards you're dealt.
Well, I don't know. You know, people tell me that all the time. People tell me they're like, wow, you're so resilient. And so I think I just like, I'm like, oh, maybe I am. So I think that because that's been a part of the narrative that was put on me. I'm like, oh, maybe I should start thinking about myself like that.
Because I feel like, you know, I've had periods where I feel like shit and I feel like nothing. And I feel like, what's the point? But it's my fans and it's people who say the nicest things to me on the street or who will write me letters or who will come – you know, to the stage door after a performance and tell me about how my music has affected them or how my journey has affected them.
So it's not that I'm just necessarily here like giving myself props all the time. Well, you should. Well, I don't know. I'm inspired by the stories of other people. Like, again, I don't have any kids. I think you're a triumph for being a mother of seven. I think that is the hardest job in the world for one. For one kid, let alone seven.
So I'm really like turnt up by thinking about how human beings are just like, they blow my mind all the time. All the time.
The craziest thing is my friend was at a cafe yesterday and he sent me a picture and he's like, look who's here. And it was my book. Someone was reading my book at the cafe he was at. And he's like, I know this is really weird, but I just came into town to work with JoJo, actually. And she's one of my good friends. And she would she'd be so excited. Like, can I tell?
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