Joanna Kakissis

Well, Michelle, Europe has stepped up its support and recent research shows that the bloc could make up the difference in military aid, at least for a while. This morning, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen also laid out a plan for the EU to boost its own defense spending by about 800 billion euros.

Well, Michelle, Europe has stepped up its support and recent research shows that the bloc could make up the difference in military aid, at least for a while. This morning, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen also laid out a plan for the EU to boost its own defense spending by about 800 billion euros.

Well, Michelle, Europe has stepped up its support and recent research shows that the bloc could make up the difference in military aid, at least for a while. This morning, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen also laid out a plan for the EU to boost its own defense spending by about 800 billion euros.

But without the U.S., defending Ukraine and Europe will be challenging, especially in the long run.

But without the U.S., defending Ukraine and Europe will be challenging, especially in the long run.

But without the U.S., defending Ukraine and Europe will be challenging, especially in the long run.

You're welcome, Michelle.

You're welcome, Michelle.

You're welcome, Michelle.

Thanks for having me, Scott.

Thanks for having me, Scott.

Thanks for having me, Scott.

Well, Scott, I would describe the reaction as outrage laced with panic. The U.S. is Ukraine's most important single ally, and Zelensky himself has said repeatedly that it will be very hard for Ukraine to keep defending itself against Russia without U.S. support. I got several text messages from Ukrainians I know saying, oh, no, it's over, and they wondered why.

Well, Scott, I would describe the reaction as outrage laced with panic. The U.S. is Ukraine's most important single ally, and Zelensky himself has said repeatedly that it will be very hard for Ukraine to keep defending itself against Russia without U.S. support. I got several text messages from Ukrainians I know saying, oh, no, it's over, and they wondered why.

Well, Scott, I would describe the reaction as outrage laced with panic. The U.S. is Ukraine's most important single ally, and Zelensky himself has said repeatedly that it will be very hard for Ukraine to keep defending itself against Russia without U.S. support. I got several text messages from Ukrainians I know saying, oh, no, it's over, and they wondered why.

With the Trump administration embracing Russia, what will happen to Ukraine? And now this is the panic talking. But what's been louder than the panic has been the anger. Ukrainians are rallying around Zelensky, recording TikTok videos supporting him and writing on social media.

With the Trump administration embracing Russia, what will happen to Ukraine? And now this is the panic talking. But what's been louder than the panic has been the anger. Ukrainians are rallying around Zelensky, recording TikTok videos supporting him and writing on social media.

With the Trump administration embracing Russia, what will happen to Ukraine? And now this is the panic talking. But what's been louder than the panic has been the anger. Ukrainians are rallying around Zelensky, recording TikTok videos supporting him and writing on social media.

Likening President Trump and Vice President Vance to schoolyard bullies who set out to humiliate and browbeat Zelensky, one prominent Ukrainian politician, Mustafa Nayyem, posted a godfather meme and wrote, quote, This administration doesn't just dislike us, they despise us. Not just Zelensky, but us, as a country, as a problem, as an annoying obstacle in their cozy world of backroom deals.

Likening President Trump and Vice President Vance to schoolyard bullies who set out to humiliate and browbeat Zelensky, one prominent Ukrainian politician, Mustafa Nayyem, posted a godfather meme and wrote, quote, This administration doesn't just dislike us, they despise us. Not just Zelensky, but us, as a country, as a problem, as an annoying obstacle in their cozy world of backroom deals.