Joanna Robinson

would deeply impact all of the characters.

Not Ogilvy, perhaps, because he seems like a sociopath, but like almost anyone else here in the ER.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's tough.

I'm not optimistic, and I am sort of pre-devastated about it.

Right.

Let's talk about Dr. J herself.

This is the first thing I said, was I was like, Javadi's the only one I can think of, but I don't think it's her.

And then we sort of went down the joy path that we were convinced by our listeners was true.

We were like, how dumb we were to not think it was Joy.

But I guess it's Victoria this whole time.

I love Joy.

Joy V. Ogilvie is honestly one of my favorite things that's happening this season.

But so Shabana Aziz plays Victoria Javadi.

And something I think that's really interesting about Javadi this season is, you know, we met her on her first day last year.

Her first day, overwhelmed, sort of spiky and defensive about how young she is, dealing with her mom sort of hovering and her reputation, dealing with having to work with Mateo, one of the handsomest guys alive, like all this sort of stuff like that.

Oh, wow.

Great call.