Joanna Robinson

I thought that was such a... This is like your opening question of kind of, is too much going on?

Is there too much?

Where are people going to be?

This is like the other side of it.

A character, a tiny little detail where you're like, I've spent now four seasons of this show.

It's going to take nearly a decade to make.

I'll have spent a decade thinking about these characters by the end.

Will they all make it to the end?

No.

We're on our third season with Kristen.

He's been here since the beginning.

And he came in with that sigil.

And then he became...

A Knight of the Kingsguard and he became Lord Commander and he became Hand of the King.

And many times in a very morally compromised fashion, he would try to gaslight other people into thinking that the sanctity and purity of the white cloak was the only thing that mattered, right?

And he lived his life through the lens of that symbol and what it meant.

And now he's like, I've seen Dragon War and I have to like connect back to what it means to be a mortal man again.

He's 100% my favorite character.

All of that stuff is gone.

And we got that in just watching him do arts and crafts for 30 seconds.