Joanne McNally

Unfortunately.

It's just the load of it all.

And the reality is we were sold an absolute fucking lie.

And then women are feeling guilty because they're dropping balls left, right and center because they, you know, you've two hands and 60, 60 balls.

60 balls.

I haven't seen a ball in about two years.

Me neither.

You've retired.

I'm on some sort of sexual sabbatical.

Balls are gone.

But it's so hard because there's a part of me that envies women who had kids young because it's done.

It's dusted.

Yeah.

the work the hard graft is over their kids are driving them giving them lifts places now but they sacrifice so much to get that done at the time then you've women like me and there's so many women like me women who did what we were told or maybe not sorry that's not fair to say not did what we were told did what was socially happy there was a there was a there was like oh my god we now can be financially independent we can be career women we don't have to get married we'll make our own money and all this stuff but what comes with that is

Hyper independence... That's required... Yeah... But then... That becomes problematic... And then there's a loneliness to it... Yeah... There really is... And like this is... Where I very much... Where I am in my life...

Where I've put it all into the job.

Yeah.

And I love my job.

Like, I really do.

It's kind of, you know, it's my sole purpose.