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I think my last question is, do you, when I talk to academics about this, I think depending on their optimism. They either see this as sort of a bit like Trump's negotiation tactics with the tariffs, make it really bad to begin with, then you sort of sidle somewhere in between and it's maybe not so bad, there's some victims along the way, science survives, having lost an arm or two.
I think my last question is, do you, when I talk to academics about this, I think depending on their optimism. They either see this as sort of a bit like Trump's negotiation tactics with the tariffs, make it really bad to begin with, then you sort of sidle somewhere in between and it's maybe not so bad, there's some victims along the way, science survives, having lost an arm or two.
But then others tell me they think the war on science is here to stay for the next four years at least and this is only going downhill. What do you think?
But then others tell me they think the war on science is here to stay for the next four years at least and this is only going downhill. What do you think?
That's right. Thanks so much, Max. Thanks for your time and your work.
That's right. Thanks so much, Max. Thanks for your time and your work.
That was Max Kozlov, reporter at Nature. We reached out to the White House, the Health and Human Services Department, the NIH and the CDC for comment, but we didn't hear back by the time we published this episode. And Science Versus will be back in your ears in March. And we'll be using a lot of those forbidden words, I promise. I'm Wendy Zuckerman. Back to you next time.
That was Max Kozlov, reporter at Nature. We reached out to the White House, the Health and Human Services Department, the NIH and the CDC for comment, but we didn't hear back by the time we published this episode. And Science Versus will be back in your ears in March. And we'll be using a lot of those forbidden words, I promise. I'm Wendy Zuckerman. Back to you next time.