Jocko Willink

And the Al-Qaeda took advantage of it.

They propagated those pictures.

They propagated those pictures from Team 5.

Like, that's what happens.

And so I guess I realized how the tactical actions of our units...

SEAL teams, Marines, Army soldiers has a strategic impact.

And we have to think about what we're doing.

I mean, it's the law of armed conflict, right?

It's like the Geneva Convention, the law of armed conflict.

There are people that are in place to make sure that we are conducting war in a forthright and just manner, if there is such a thing.

You know, can we go back to the quote from Apocalypse Now?

Like...

know handing out charges for murder around here is like handing out speeding tickets at the indianapolis 500 you can take that approach but it's not going to help you it's not going to help you you there's there's rules and we have just got to follow the rules and if the rules don't make sense then you got to raise your hand and say hey these rules don't make sense and i did that for instance and i brought this up earlier breaching

So when I first got to Iraq, that first deployment, we're breaching every door, of course, right?

Well, so is everybody else.

Everyone's just breaching the hell out of everything.

You're going to enter a building, you breach the door because it gives you a tactical advantage, right?

So guys, civilians were getting injured by breaches.

And eventually they said, hey, no more breaching, no more explosive breaching, done.

So I get this word and, you know, I talk to my guys, no more explosive breaching.