Jocko Willink

Two guys were wounded.

You know, they were going to get medevaced.

And he said he didn't think Mikey was going to make it.

I immediately knew that he had jumped on the grenade.

And I talked to the guys once they got to Germany, the guys that had been Kazevacked.

And they told me, you know, and they were like sending me sketches of what happened immediately.

And so it was like about as clear of a Medal of Honor action that you could think of.

And luckily, like I said, for Dan Pinion and his guy Marquis Quick, they were in the middle of deployment.

You know, for me, we were almost done.

So started putting that award together.

Did you write that award?

Seth did.

And he got the input from Mike

and doug who were like and benny who were the guys that were saved and uh yeah he he put it together he started writing it and then i mean i chopped it edited it or whatever but yeah it was

You know, and talking to Mikey's sister, it's like, I mean, many conversations over the years, but one of the things that always stuck with me was she was just like, it was not a surprise.

Meaning like, that's Mikey.

It's not a surprise.

I think he's going to, what do you think he's going to do?

Save his teammates or save himself?

We weren't surprised by it.