Jocko Willink

Like from, you know, hey, here's the mission.

You guys figure out how you want to do it.

And he just put that responsibility and gave us ownership.

And so that guy, you know, when I was watching him and as I went through that platoon, he was just awesome and he made our lives awesome.

And, you know, when your SEAL platoon is your life and your SEAL platoon is your religion and you have a guy like that take over and the contrast between the guy that

was arrogant and didn't listen to us and held on to all the power himself.

I learned so much from seeing that contrast between these two guys.

And so as time went on, that guy left me with a lot of lessons.

And one of the most important lessons that he taught me was we were working with the Marines.

Like I said, we were in our platoon.

So we were ships.

off the coast of San Diego were doing like the Marine Corps workup with them.

For Marine Corps workup, they got to do beach landings.

Red Beach up in Camp Pendleton.

And before the beach landing goes down, SEALs, back in the old days, we went out with a lead line and slate like World War II and did a hydrographic reconnaissance.

And that is a gut check of an operation, especially in a big sea state, especially off Camp Pendleton in whatever month it was.

It's cold, giant waves.

We're in our zodiacs.

It's such a gut check of an operation.

It takes five or six hours to do.