Jocko Willink

I liked hardcore music and heavy metal.

And that's where I spent a lot of my time, listening to hardcore music and heavy metal when I was a kid.

Surfed, luckily.

Skateboarded.

um went to hardcore shows in new york city when i was a young kid which was amazing and you know that kind of uh scratched my rebellious i've always been a little bit of a rebellious kid and so that kind of made me feel like i was scratching that itch and i just related to it you know i related to the first time i heard like heavy music it i i it sounded right to me

as opposed to a lot of the other music that was out there.

Like pop music, it didn't sound right to me.

But hardcore and heavy metal sounded right to me.

And there was a lot of that kind of push yourself, also like a DIY ethic of, hey, you got to do stuff yourself.

If you want to do something, if you want something, you got to go make it happen.

And that stuck with me, for sure.

When did jujitsu start for you?

My first platoon.

Oh, it didn't start until your first platoon.

Okay.

Yeah, jujitsu was not even remotely a thing when I was growing up.

It wasn't like Brazilian jujitsu was completely unheard of.

This is in the 80s.

In America, there was no Brazilian jujitsu.

It wasn't even in the magazines yet.