Jocko Willink

you know, I was a hard worker and that he moved from group, from unit two.

So I was with the XO in Germany and then he becomes the XO at team two.

So like,

When I get back there, I immediately get back put into a platoon.

So I do a platoon at SEAL Team 2 and a strike platoon off the aircraft carrier.

Right on.

Right on.

Which was, again, working with a lot of assets and going over and doing VBSS over in the Persian Gulf, which, again, at the time was a real thing.

As far as leadership of troops, no, but understanding of the bigger picture, yes.

Because the guy that I work for there, again, he's a friend of mine and just a great guy.

And he had, you know, a lot of experience himself at the time, right?

Not experience like guys have now, but at the time he had experience.

And like there was one time we were on a big exercise, a big joint exercise, and we like put together a talk, right?

Tactical Operations Center.

What's interesting about this is, man, you think of a talk now, like you think of what a mobile talk would look like now.

I'm not kidding.

Well, I put together a mobile talk and I was the, like the ops officer for this operation, this training operation.

And I had the talk in my backpack.

It was like three radios, two maps, some magic markers, some pens, like that's what we rolled with.

And that's what we set up, you know, that's what we did.