Jocko Willink

It wasn't like, hey, what do you want to do this week when you're home?

No, I'll go to Nylander.

I'll go to wherever to go make stuff happen.

So I stayed in that mode.

And then again, from my second platoon, I had

There was an officer program that was called the Seaman to Admiral Program, and it was started by a guy named Jim Borda, Admiral Borda, who, if you know anything about him, he killed himself.

So this is, again, there's all these weird threads through people's lives, but one of the weird threads through my life is that

One of my biggest mentors and heroes is a guy named Colonel David Hackworth.

And Colonel David Hackworth was a, wrote the book about face and he was a Korean war veteran and a Vietnam war veteran.

He was one of the most decorated army soldiers.

And he, when he retired, he had retired because during the Vietnam War, he did an interview where he said, if we don't change the way we're fighting, we're going to lose.

That's basically what he said.

And he got drummed out of the army for saying that because he was a colonel.

He was a senior officer.

He was the first senior officer to speak out against the war and the way we were fighting it.

And when he got out, he, you know, he kind of, he wrote books, but he was a little bit of a journalist and a little bit of a, you know, yeah, kind of like a journalist.

And he reported that Admiral Borda was wearing a V on his Navy commendation medal.

So a Navy comm with a V.

And he said he didn't rate it because V is an award for valor.

And you know, like that's a big deal.