Jodi Kantor

It's to be truly independent.

It's to...

to look at every case.

But we know that's bullshit.

But are you saying, John... John O'Donoghue.

But are you... But are you... But do you still believe that it should be the goal of the courts to transcend political bias?

Yes.

So, like... They should.

I mean, I'm a reporter because I believe that information makes...

everything essentially better.

And we're having a lot of debate about this country, about the Supreme Court.

I want us to have the most information possible so that we can have the healthiest, richest, fairest debate about these like pretty difficult questions.

I mean, people are talking about packing the court.

You know, we're the only constitutional democracy without age limits or term limits.

Judges.

And so I think there's going to be a lot of debate about that too, right?

And so we just, you know, it's hard to have a really great debate about a place that is totally secret.

So that is why we are trying to cast some light.

Well, thank you.

It's for your kids, so... This is for my kids?