Jodi Kantor

And also the spectator, not only did they publish this bananas thing, but they touted it.

Like on the front page, they said, turn to page three to read an attack on a student.

So I was mortified.

It felt like, you know, everyone's looking at me, but also curious.

I was like, this guy's in my class.

How could he have written this?

So I walked up to him and I asked him politely, why'd you write this?

And he didn't answer.

So then I called him and I left messages saying, I just really want to understand why you wrote this.

And he didn't answer.

And the next thing I know, I got a phone call from the editor of The Spectator who said that this other guy was accusing me of harassing him and that we were both kicked off the paper.

Later, like Megan Toohey, my partner on the Weinstein story, she thinks this story is hilarious because she's like, Jodi, you were fired from a newspaper for asking too many questions.

But it was very painful.

And also it made me hate journalism.

Like I didn't, I was like, this is the most chaotic story.

unfair, uncivilized, insulting thing I've ever seen.

How could I ever give my life over to this?

And I made a mistake I think a lot of young people make, which is getting burned early by something and running away.

And the reason I think it's a mistake is that being young is really chaotic.

I'm sure you have stories like this too, Debbie.