Jodi Kantor

Is the work being done by AI?

Yeah, to some degree.

But it's also, you know, hiring has become digitized.

Management is becoming technological.

And so I think the question we have to ask is, look, like all of us in our lives, we know like the employee-employer relationship is a really,

complicated thing.

What happens when technology takes over?

In 2017, you and Megan Tuohy began investigating information you heard about the Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein.

For those that might not have read your book or seen the movie, she said, how did that story first come to you?

So my colleagues Emily Steele and Michael Schmidt did an astounding story about Bill O'Reilly, the Fox News host.

When I talk to student audiences who don't know who Bill O'Reilly is, I'm like, the Tucker Carlson of his day.

And...

Emily and Mike were able to show that O'Reilly and Fox had paid millions and millions of dollars to silence accusations that O'Reilly had crossed a line with women in the workplace.

So the story was astounding for two reasons.

One, the fact that it was published at all.

I mean, it was really a feat of reporting because in the past, those kinds of secret settlements like Cash for Silence, they had been reasons not to do this story.

Like, oh, we can't write about it.

It's all been silenced.

My colleagues figured out that they were the story, right?

The exchange of money and these elaborate agreements didn't prove what had happened, but they were highly suggestive.