Jodi Kantor

But in doing so, he really learned the craft of restaurants.

And he describes in the book these like amazing moments of learning and aha moments where it all comes together for him.

And then we go through the story about how those hard-won insights gained over years in repetitive work.

led him to a series of realizations that has now helped him reinvent the restaurant model.

And that is often the case with craft.

It's hard and it's slow and it's hard and it's slow, and then it turns into something wonderful.

I was speaking to a group of students at Syracuse University last week, and one thing that I realized is that they're the last generation of

that is going to learn how to craft anything without having had to learn about AI first.

Well, let's see, right?

Because what are we going to find out?

I mean, listen, every day I hear these experts fight about AI.

Is it a revolution?

Is it a red herring?

I don't think we know.

I don't know, Debbie, you and I have also seen...

We've seen a lot of technologies that made sense that people didn't end up liking.

Like, look at books.

I mean, we're old enough to remember the period when e-books were supposed to take over the publishing industry.

And e-books made sense.

They're cheaper.