Jodi Wellman

What's the stuff that you would love to do before you go?

And then rather than just talking about it in a grandiose notion, which admittedly, according to some psychological research, sometimes just fantasizing about a dream,

takes the wind out of our sails and we just feel good enough to dream about it, but we don't do anything about it.

And that to me is just the kiss of death.

So I say, talk to your friends, talk to your family, talk to whoever will listen about like, what do you wanna do?

Here's what I wanna do.

And then hold each other a little bit accountable to be like, well, wait a minute, you said you wanted to learn Italian.

Like, what would that actually look like?

Like, do you need to download the app?

And like, do you wanna, I don't know, if you do that, then I'll do, I'll register for that online course I was thinking of taking.

We can both kind of hold each other accountable.

So it's the coming back consistently to this concept called memento mori, which is the old Latin phrase and ancient practice of remembering we must die.

And it's just that consistent reminder.

We have to keep reminding ourselves.

I have to keep reminding myself and I do this for a living.

Yeah, thanks for bringing it up.

I don't think we do.

So I think there are a couple of facets that, and I'm so glad you're asking this question, because this is the stuff that stops us from living, to be quite honest.

It's that sort of dismissive, well, I don't have time, so it's all or nothing thinking that we do really well.

We vastly underestimate...