Jody Glidden

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, they, they're usually, you know, depending on what products they choose, cause we have a number of products.

but a lot of companies start with us in around that a hundred thousand dollars a year range.

Cool.

Uh, really at the, at the end of 2011, start of 2012, that was when we raised our first money and kind of got more serious about things.

Yeah, I had just, uh, we had a pre me and my partner, Stuart had a previous startup.

We were acquired by Blackberry and, um, that was in 2008, 2009 when,

when Blackberry was really the top, really the only smartphone game in town back then.

We stayed with them for a couple of years, took different roles, and then I left, and it started this.

Then we raised money shortly after that, and Stuart jumped over shortly after.

We've raised around $15 million or so.

Um, no, we did put some of our own money in as well.

Um, there's been, you know, some equity raise, there's been some of our own money and there's also been, uh, we have a lot of our people in Canada and the Canadian government has also, uh, helped with some grant money and stuff like that.

So total financing in is probably closer to 20 total or VCs would be closer to 15.

Yep.

Yeah, it's a lot of risk.

I still believe that it's worth it to have a financial partner.

I have a friend who had a very, very successful startup where he got, I don't know, $100 million, $150 million personally.

And he's tried since then doing two or three startups, and he lost most of the money that he got from it.