Joe Allen

It seems very likely to me.

And we know without a doubt that people like Sam Altman, even the cats at Google who are much more moderate, and of course Elon Musk, and maybe even Dario Amadei, they all intend to create general and then...

potentially super intelligence should the recursive self-improvement occur.

So your reaction to that, you know that this is going on.

You spend every day of your life watching it unfold.

You do this in Berkeley and San Francisco.

So you're around that culture.

How do you feel or how do you think about this intent to create a digital God?

And how do your colleagues think about this?

How do your peers around San Francisco think about this?

What's the culture like?

So they're caught in this race dynamic that would only stop if everyone stopped.

It was just across the board.

There won't be any unilateral pause.

especially not if we keep exporting chips to China.

Well, Jeffrey, I could talk to you all day, and we hope to have you back on, I guess, next time virtually.

I'll be speaking to you through a screen, Star Trek style.

But until then, how can people keep up with the work at Palisade Research?

How can people keep up with you?

Yeah.