Joe Carlsmith

Like there's a whole, it's not like, all right, we've got this agent, let's carve out one part of the world.

It's one agent over here.

It's like, it's this whole like messy ecosystem, like kind of teaming niches and this whole thing.

Right.

Um, and yeah,

I think in discussions of AI, sometimes people slip between being like, well, an agent is anything that gets anything done.

Right.

And they'll sort of, they don't, it could be like this weird mushy thing.

And then sometimes they're like very obviously imagining like individual actor.

Um, and so, uh,

that's like one, one difference.

I also just think, I think we should be really going for the balance of power thing.

Like, I, I think it is just like not good to be like, let's, we're going to have a dictator who should like, let's make sure we like make the dictator the right dictator.

I'm like, Whoa, no, you know, like let's, uh, you know, I, I think the goal should be sort of, we all foom together, you know, it's like the whole, the whole thing in this like kind of inclusive and pluralistic way in a way that kind of, um,

satisfies the values of like tons of stakeholders, right?

And at no point is there like one kind of single point of failure on all these things.

Like, I think that's what we should be striving for here.

And I think that's true of the human power aspect of AI.

And I think it's true of the AI part as well.

Yeah.