Joe Carlsmith

It's like somehow you lose touch with the kind of complexity of how we actually, like we've been dealing with kind of differences in values and kind of competitions for power.

This is classic stuff, right?

And I don't actually think, I think the AI sort of amplify a lot of the,

um, the, the kind of dynamics, but I don't think it's sort of fundamentally new.

And so part of what I'm trying to say is like, well, let's draw on our full, on the full wisdom we have here while, while obviously adjusting for like ways in which, um, things are different.

So I don't think it's a coincidence in that I think

Essentially, the way we would become able to expand, or the kind of most salient way to me, is via some kind of radical acceleration of our technology.

I mean, I think for most people, very little.

You know, I think people are really like, what's going to happen to this world, right?

This world around us that we live in as we... And, you know, what's going to happen to me and my kids and to...

So I don't actually think, you know, some people spend a lot of time on the space stuff, but I think for the most immediately pressing stuff about AI doesn't require that at all.

I also think, like, even if you bracket space, like, time is also very big.

And so, you know, whatever, we've got, like, 500 million years, a billion years left on Earth if we don't mess with the sun, and maybe you could get more out of it.

So, like, you know, I think there's still...

That's a lot.

So, and then, and then I guess, but yeah, but I don't know if it like fundamentally changes the narrative.

Like I do think, I mean, obviously the stakes insofar as you care about what happens, you know, in the future or in space, then like the stakes are way smaller if you, if you shrink, shrink down to the, to the solar system.

And I think that does,

change potentially some stuff in that, like a really nice feature of our situation right now, depending on what the actual nature of kind of the kind of resource pie is, is that I think

In some sense, there's such an abundance of energy and other resources and principle available to a kind of responsible civilization that really just tons of stakeholders, especially ones who are able to saturate, get really close to amazing according to their values with comparatively small allocations of resources or something.