Joe Carlsmith

You're like using the AIs a bunch.

Um, and, uh,

you know, hopefully you're doing a bunch more, humans are doing a bunch more alignment work.

I also personally am hopeful that we can like successfully elicit from various AIs like a ton of alignment work progress.

So like, yeah, there's like a bunch of ways this can go.

And I'm, you know, I'm not here to tell you like, you know, 90% doom or anything like that.

I do think like, you know, my...

The sort of basic reason for concern, if you're really imagining, like, we're going to transition to a world in which we've created these beings that are just, like, vastly more powerful than us.

And we've reached the point where our continued empowerment is just effectively dependent on their motives.

Like, it is this...

you know, vulnerability to, like, what do the AIs choose to do?

Do they choose to continue to empower us, or do they choose to do something else?

Yeah, so you can hope that that will work, too.

But there is, I mean, there is a concern.

I mean, so I sometimes think about...

AI takeover scenarios via this spectrum of, like, how much power did we kind of voluntarily transfer to the AIs?

Like, how much of our civilization did we kind of hand to the AIs intentionally by the time they sort of took over, versus how much did they

kind of take for themselves, right?

And so I think some of the scariest scenarios are, it's like a really, really fast explosion to the point where there wasn't even a lot of like integration of AI systems into the broader economy.

And, but there's this like really intensive amount of super intelligence sort of concentrated in a single project or something like that.