Joe DeRosa

Yeah.

It's a, it's, it's an interesting thing.

It's an interesting thing.

It's, it's, I never,

Once ethics, pardon me, once ethics became economized, I knew there was, I was like, we got a real problem on our hands now.

Like when people started, because I was living in LA at the time, and when you started seeing like, you'd be in a job interview just to get a writing gig,

on a TV show, whatever it was, and you started to see how your social media played into it.

You started to see how your takes played into it.

Hey, I saw you in a little weird dust-up with this guy on the Internet.

What was that all about?

You know what I mean?

It's like ethics are being economized.

Your morality is being monetized.

And once people start to do that, that separation of church and livelihood is no longer there.

And the politics becomes the deity or the dogma, whatever you want to call it.

And it's just, oh, my God, man.

It's not a good scene.

And I never thought you'd see the day where the extremists are the loudest of the voices.

But what if you say that's... What if you say that's my business and I don't want to share that?

Well, also, too, to me, it's like, if you said to me, Joe, if you bring up my pronouns, you are to refer to me as a cat man.