Joe Eszterhas

Well, hearing that, Otis Redding was such a legend.

Oh, he was great.

He died so young, too.

How old was he?

So anybody who writes interesting things the way you do has to have had some interesting life experiences.

You don't get those kind of scripts that you wrote from a sterile environment.

When you say you fell between Christian films and secular films, you mean in the way you were writing it?

That you weren't writing it specifically as a Christian film or specifically as a secular film?

Like you wrote everything else?

That's too bad, because that bridge is probably what would bring more people to Christianity, where they could relate to it.

It's interesting how Hollywood has always rejected those kind of religious films, like The Passion of the Christ, for instance.

That was a huge movie.

No, it was horrific.

And then there was also that Willem Dafoe film.

What was that one called?

That's right.

Marty Scorsese.

Yeah, The Last Temptation of the Christ, I don't remember.

So was it just Catholic people and Christian people that were upset about this?

Mostly, yeah.