Joe Eszterhas

Which is incredible when you think about a person that lived so long ago.

Your imagined companion.

Let me ask you this, because I had a long conversation with Mel Gibson about this.

What do you think about the Shroud of Turin?

Yeah, I've seen that as well.

But then I've also seen people that say that that evidence, there's some controversy about that evidence.

Yeah, there is.

And that some of the cloth they believe dates to far earlier.

And it's the type of cloth and the way it's made seems to indicate that it's far older.

I don't know how much of the cloth they've carbon tested.

You know, that is also an issue.

And whether or not it had been repaired or whether or not there had been additional pieces.

At the very least, it's an insanely compelling piece of artwork.

Absolutely.

But there's also a lot of...

very strange mysteries as to how that was created in the first place.

Because it's not a dye and they're not exactly sure what caused that image to appear.

Or how, if that is a piece of art, they don't know how that art was created.

And the fact that they really only could see the accurate representation of it once they saw it as a negative is also very interesting.

Because who's gonna make a piece of art where you can only really appreciate what it looks like when you see it as a negative?