Joe Kent

there is a potential that he views all of that as a deciding factor.

Again, that's not my number one theory of the case, but for some people who are saying like President Trump is too stupid to, or too smart to fall for all of this, and I don't think he necessarily fell for it.

I just think with the ecosystem that was created, I think he was heavily influenced.

The alternative course of action is that he is under some degree of coercion.

And so that's what Tucker and I were discussing there.

Yeah, well, I mean, that's why I brought it up.

I mean, this is shocking stuff.

And to have somebody of your caliber with the highest security clearance who served in the United States government, who served at the pleasure of the president, bring it up.

I mean, it really troubles me.

I talked about it on our show yesterday.

I genuinely dismissed a lot of this as kookery.

But to hear you talk about that makes me really question whether some of my initial dismissing specifically around Charlie Kirk.

was wrong or not.

And so and you continue to to believe that there was a blocking of your investigation and that whether I guess some plot or not, that it created a potential impression in Trump's mind.

I do want to make sure, though, on this Butler assassination, this Iranian alleged assassination attempt.

Mac, we have that screenshot.

Trump said, I believe I got the Ayatollah before he got me.

So does your impression here then he says they tried me twice.

Is your impression that this was an actual Iranian plot?

Isn't an Israeli plot?