Joe Lonsdale

Well, it's interesting because you said earlier, I'm not going to say who you're saying it about, but anyone who is the one guy we both know who's done a lot of drugs and he's still pretty sane and functional and that's really impressive, right? It's extreme.

And so similarly, when you get people who are really, really bright, like really off the charts, minds working great, most of those people are crazy. Most of those people are not functional in the real world, but crazy means lots of things, but, but not able to be, to keep themselves functional in the real world because they're just too off the charts and a little too wacky.

And so similarly, when you get people who are really, really bright, like really off the charts, minds working great, most of those people are crazy. Most of those people are not functional in the real world, but crazy means lots of things, but, but not able to be, to keep themselves functional in the real world because they're just too off the charts and a little too wacky.

And so similarly, when you get people who are really, really bright, like really off the charts, minds working great, most of those people are crazy. Most of those people are not functional in the real world, but crazy means lots of things, but, but not able to be, to keep themselves functional in the real world because they're just too off the charts and a little too wacky.

Maybe it's like extreme autism, maybe it's something else. But, but when you have people who are just off the charts and able to function in the real world, it's actually a pretty small subset. And I think you can usually, it's a different type of person. It's like a certain type of ambition, a certain type of way of functioning. I'm not, I'm not saying that.

Maybe it's like extreme autism, maybe it's something else. But, but when you have people who are just off the charts and able to function in the real world, it's actually a pretty small subset. And I think you can usually, it's a different type of person. It's like a certain type of ambition, a certain type of way of functioning. I'm not, I'm not saying that.

Maybe it's like extreme autism, maybe it's something else. But, but when you have people who are just off the charts and able to function in the real world, it's actually a pretty small subset. And I think you can usually, it's a different type of person. It's like a certain type of ambition, a certain type of way of functioning. I'm not, I'm not saying that.

You know, these are necessarily the most social genius, normal people, but they're still able to function with that kind of intellect. And that's a good combination.

You know, these are necessarily the most social genius, normal people, but they're still able to function with that kind of intellect. And that's a good combination.

You know, these are necessarily the most social genius, normal people, but they're still able to function with that kind of intellect. And that's a good combination.

I think no value judgment. Everyone can have different ways of impacting the world and doing amazing things.

I think no value judgment. Everyone can have different ways of impacting the world and doing amazing things.

I think no value judgment. Everyone can have different ways of impacting the world and doing amazing things.

And to me, to do the things that impact the future of civilization, to build the stuff that's really hard to build, whether it's SpaceX or Palantir, which kind of broke through these things in government, whether it's something that changes how nuclear power works or healthcare or education, those have to be people who can assemble lots of talent together and can work with the systems around our civilization.

And to me, to do the things that impact the future of civilization, to build the stuff that's really hard to build, whether it's SpaceX or Palantir, which kind of broke through these things in government, whether it's something that changes how nuclear power works or healthcare or education, those have to be people who can assemble lots of talent together and can work with the systems around our civilization.

And to me, to do the things that impact the future of civilization, to build the stuff that's really hard to build, whether it's SpaceX or Palantir, which kind of broke through these things in government, whether it's something that changes how nuclear power works or healthcare or education, those have to be people who can assemble lots of talent together and can work with the systems around our civilization.

So that requires working in the real world to really build a lot of types of things.

So that requires working in the real world to really build a lot of types of things.

So that requires working in the real world to really build a lot of types of things.

Well, maybe I'm a little off and stuff, you know, too, but I think I can at least still talk to the people, understand the systems, work with them. There are some people, we call them artists in our company. Alex Karp, my co-founder of Palantir, I always refer to them as artists who are just absolute geniuses. You kind of have to protect them and put up with them, right? So it's like...