Joe Lonsdale

And we could end it for a long time. So I'm hoping we do. That's that. In terms of... In terms of Overblown, I actually... Listen, I think there's a lot of unfortunate conflicts in Africa. I think Christians are being attacked all over Africa by Islamists. That's a separate problem, but also one I maybe there's something to do about.

I think mostly the world's actually more peaceful today overall than it has been for a long time. Obviously, we're all very worried about China. The Russia-Ukraine thing is a mess. But I think overall, it's not like Europe's in tons of conflicts right now. I think overall, we're a pretty good place if we can take care of these few crazy people.

I think mostly the world's actually more peaceful today overall than it has been for a long time. Obviously, we're all very worried about China. The Russia-Ukraine thing is a mess. But I think overall, it's not like Europe's in tons of conflicts right now. I think overall, we're a pretty good place if we can take care of these few crazy people.

I think mostly the world's actually more peaceful today overall than it has been for a long time. Obviously, we're all very worried about China. The Russia-Ukraine thing is a mess. But I think overall, it's not like Europe's in tons of conflicts right now. I think overall, we're a pretty good place if we can take care of these few crazy people.

Well, you know, after founding Palantir for a while, I didn't do defense because it's so annoying to have to work for the government. I built companies in other areas. And then I went back into defense. about 10 or 11 years ago because really what happened is we saw Xi Jinping again take over China.

Well, you know, after founding Palantir for a while, I didn't do defense because it's so annoying to have to work for the government. I built companies in other areas. And then I went back into defense. about 10 or 11 years ago because really what happened is we saw Xi Jinping again take over China.

Well, you know, after founding Palantir for a while, I didn't do defense because it's so annoying to have to work for the government. I built companies in other areas. And then I went back into defense. about 10 or 11 years ago because really what happened is we saw Xi Jinping again take over China.

We saw him forcing a lot of our friends to have their best engineers in China working on things with the PLA. And it was clear he was becoming very militaristic. And then it was also clear that they were innovating and doing things that were ahead of some of what we do here. What like? Well, they had better hypersonics in certain areas.

We saw him forcing a lot of our friends to have their best engineers in China working on things with the PLA. And it was clear he was becoming very militaristic. And then it was also clear that they were innovating and doing things that were ahead of some of what we do here. What like? Well, they had better hypersonics in certain areas.

We saw him forcing a lot of our friends to have their best engineers in China working on things with the PLA. And it was clear he was becoming very militaristic. And then it was also clear that they were innovating and doing things that were ahead of some of what we do here. What like? Well, they had better hypersonics in certain areas.

They were starting to do swarms of drones that could attack in different ways. And it was just none of our defense hardware companies, none of the big primes, you know, have. So what a prime is, is that in the 1990s, the Cold War ended and we had all the best companies in defense, but we weren't going to spend as much on defense anymore.

They were starting to do swarms of drones that could attack in different ways. And it was just none of our defense hardware companies, none of the big primes, you know, have. So what a prime is, is that in the 1990s, the Cold War ended and we had all the best companies in defense, but we weren't going to spend as much on defense anymore.

They were starting to do swarms of drones that could attack in different ways. And it was just none of our defense hardware companies, none of the big primes, you know, have. So what a prime is, is that in the 1990s, the Cold War ended and we had all the best companies in defense, but we weren't going to spend as much on defense anymore.

So they all merged and they formed these like nine giant companies. These companies started to become very bureaucratic, almost like they're arms of the government. And then in the late 90s, all the top software engineers went to Silicon Valley and started innovating. And so these big companies just fell way behind in software, way behind in all these new possibilities.

So they all merged and they formed these like nine giant companies. These companies started to become very bureaucratic, almost like they're arms of the government. And then in the late 90s, all the top software engineers went to Silicon Valley and started innovating. And so these big companies just fell way behind in software, way behind in all these new possibilities.

So they all merged and they formed these like nine giant companies. These companies started to become very bureaucratic, almost like they're arms of the government. And then in the late 90s, all the top software engineers went to Silicon Valley and started innovating. And so these big companies just fell way behind in software, way behind in all these new possibilities.

And so China had this like new dynamic sector. And we had this like kind of old sclerotic legacy failing things. We're like, oh my God, we got to get our best people to work on this. And so my friend Palmer Luckey, who we backed at Oculus before, he partnered with three Palantir guys to form Andral, which is a very... famous company now it's raised at 30 billion plus valuation.

And so China had this like new dynamic sector. And we had this like kind of old sclerotic legacy failing things. We're like, oh my God, we got to get our best people to work on this. And so my friend Palmer Luckey, who we backed at Oculus before, he partnered with three Palantir guys to form Andral, which is a very... famous company now it's raised at 30 billion plus valuation.

And so China had this like new dynamic sector. And we had this like kind of old sclerotic legacy failing things. We're like, oh my God, we got to get our best people to work on this. And so my friend Palmer Luckey, who we backed at Oculus before, he partnered with three Palantir guys to form Andral, which is a very... famous company now it's raised at 30 billion plus valuation.

Then shortly after that, as we back that, we went all in and now we started Epirus. Epirus is named after the bow of Theseus, which had infinite arrows, but it's the best EMP company. We could shoot down electronics miles away with bursts of microwave radiation. It's just really cool at turning off swarms of drones. What's happening now is you have swarms of drones in the air,