Joe Lonsdale

It's just similar to how Saronic here in Austin's building thousands of smaller vessels for the Navy. And we're going to start building larger ones too. And having them swarm for the Navy that are, you know, armed and autonomous. We want to build thousands of overland vehicles.

It's just similar to how Saronic here in Austin's building thousands of smaller vessels for the Navy. And we're going to start building larger ones too. And having them swarm for the Navy that are, you know, armed and autonomous. We want to build thousands of overland vehicles.

And it's really interesting doing these things because when you spec out the vehicle, the traditional defense solution is like, it needs to have these 37 capabilities, needs to have this armor, needs to do this, needs to do that. And you're like, wait a second, you could give it all 37 of those capabilities, or you could build a thousand of them for the same cost with like 10 capabilities.

And it's really interesting doing these things because when you spec out the vehicle, the traditional defense solution is like, it needs to have these 37 capabilities, needs to have this armor, needs to do this, needs to do that. And you're like, wait a second, you could give it all 37 of those capabilities, or you could build a thousand of them for the same cost with like 10 capabilities.

And it's really interesting doing these things because when you spec out the vehicle, the traditional defense solution is like, it needs to have these 37 capabilities, needs to have this armor, needs to do this, needs to do that. And you're like, wait a second, you could give it all 37 of those capabilities, or you could build a thousand of them for the same cost with like 10 capabilities.

So it becomes this like fascinating problem where this is a really important point in warfare. Like warfare has this engineering aspect to it. Like if you want to build a bridge and you want the bridge to never fall down, If you give me a billion dollars, I could build you a bridge that will never fall down. It might be ugly, but it'll be like so much metal, so many supports.

So it becomes this like fascinating problem where this is a really important point in warfare. Like warfare has this engineering aspect to it. Like if you want to build a bridge and you want the bridge to never fall down, If you give me a billion dollars, I could build you a bridge that will never fall down. It might be ugly, but it'll be like so much metal, so many supports.

So it becomes this like fascinating problem where this is a really important point in warfare. Like warfare has this engineering aspect to it. Like if you want to build a bridge and you want the bridge to never fall down, If you give me a billion dollars, I could build you a bridge that will never fall down. It might be ugly, but it'll be like so much metal, so many supports.

It'll never fall down. But the point of engineering is not to build a billion dollars. It's how do you build it for $50 million and never fall down just as much, right? And it's a similar thing in warfare. You always have scarcity. So it's not about what are all the really cool specs on your jet or on your tank or whatever.

It'll never fall down. But the point of engineering is not to build a billion dollars. It's how do you build it for $50 million and never fall down just as much, right? And it's a similar thing in warfare. You always have scarcity. So it's not about what are all the really cool specs on your jet or on your tank or whatever.

It'll never fall down. But the point of engineering is not to build a billion dollars. It's how do you build it for $50 million and never fall down just as much, right? And it's a similar thing in warfare. You always have scarcity. So it's not about what are all the really cool specs on your jet or on your tank or whatever.

It's, okay, if you're going to spend a certain amount of resources, I'm going to spend a certain amount of resources and we're going to fight. Let's do something that just overwhelms. Even if the tank is better in all these ways, I have a thousand times as many vehicles. I'm just going to swarm you and crush you and keep going, right?

It's, okay, if you're going to spend a certain amount of resources, I'm going to spend a certain amount of resources and we're going to fight. Let's do something that just overwhelms. Even if the tank is better in all these ways, I have a thousand times as many vehicles. I'm just going to swarm you and crush you and keep going, right?

It's, okay, if you're going to spend a certain amount of resources, I'm going to spend a certain amount of resources and we're going to fight. Let's do something that just overwhelms. Even if the tank is better in all these ways, I have a thousand times as many vehicles. I'm just going to swarm you and crush you and keep going, right?

So there's things like this now where it's... And this is why advanced manufacturing, going back to the tariffs, is so important to be good at. Because if we're not good at that here and the other guys are good at it, that's scary.

So there's things like this now where it's... And this is why advanced manufacturing, going back to the tariffs, is so important to be good at. Because if we're not good at that here and the other guys are good at it, that's scary.

So there's things like this now where it's... And this is why advanced manufacturing, going back to the tariffs, is so important to be good at. Because if we're not good at that here and the other guys are good at it, that's scary.

I think people are still very important in a lot of different things. I think the way warfare is morphing, it goes towards a special forces model. So I think Elon Musk has been really clear. Obviously, you don't want tons of troops running forward, and then there's tons of drones coming. That's terrible. I don't want to be that guy on the front line.

I think people are still very important in a lot of different things. I think the way warfare is morphing, it goes towards a special forces model. So I think Elon Musk has been really clear. Obviously, you don't want tons of troops running forward, and then there's tons of drones coming. That's terrible. I don't want to be that guy on the front line.

I think people are still very important in a lot of different things. I think the way warfare is morphing, it goes towards a special forces model. So I think Elon Musk has been really clear. Obviously, you don't want tons of troops running forward, and then there's tons of drones coming. That's terrible. I don't want to be that guy on the front line.