Joe Lonsdale

It's a huge part of it. I mean, when we do these Saronic ships with the Navy. Saronic? Saronic is a company that just raised $600 million at a $4 billion valuation that we helped some of the amazing talented guys start. Dino Maroukas is a Navy sailor who started here in Austin. And so it's an Austin-based company. It's building like hundreds of these weaponized vessels.

And, you know, I think the current ones are mostly 24-footers and they could do certain things. And, you know, I think if you build- Unmanned? all unmanned for now. And if you have 130 foot or mostly unmanned, but maybe you make people go on if they want, that lets you shoot things that take 80 foot of ship to, to fire. Otherwise you couldn't fire from 24 feet.

And, you know, I think the current ones are mostly 24-footers and they could do certain things. And, you know, I think if you build- Unmanned? all unmanned for now. And if you have 130 foot or mostly unmanned, but maybe you make people go on if they want, that lets you shoot things that take 80 foot of ship to, to fire. Otherwise you couldn't fire from 24 feet.

And, you know, I think the current ones are mostly 24-footers and they could do certain things. And, you know, I think if you build- Unmanned? all unmanned for now. And if you have 130 foot or mostly unmanned, but maybe you make people go on if they want, that lets you shoot things that take 80 foot of ship to, to fire. Otherwise you couldn't fire from 24 feet.

So, so yeah, it does become like about carrying weapons and maneuvering and supporting other vessels.

So, so yeah, it does become like about carrying weapons and maneuvering and supporting other vessels.

So, so yeah, it does become like about carrying weapons and maneuvering and supporting other vessels.

autonomous submarines looking like that to me seems like the most obvious place to and again it's it's about the scarcity scarcity question as well right because it's like what does it cost versus having a swarm of things on top of the water you want both i think so yeah andrel which again i'm a big investor in palmer and my friends are running uh they have a facility in rhode island that's pumping out a couple hundred of these a year and there's these very advanced submarines they've also just i think last week introduced these like

autonomous submarines looking like that to me seems like the most obvious place to and again it's it's about the scarcity scarcity question as well right because it's like what does it cost versus having a swarm of things on top of the water you want both i think so yeah andrel which again i'm a big investor in palmer and my friends are running uh they have a facility in rhode island that's pumping out a couple hundred of these a year and there's these very advanced submarines they've also just i think last week introduced these like

autonomous submarines looking like that to me seems like the most obvious place to and again it's it's about the scarcity scarcity question as well right because it's like what does it cost versus having a swarm of things on top of the water you want both i think so yeah andrel which again i'm a big investor in palmer and my friends are running uh they have a facility in rhode island that's pumping out a couple hundred of these a year and there's these very advanced submarines they've also just i think last week introduced these like

new underwater sentries that can detect certain things and do certain things underwater too. I think you can use them as mines and stuff as well and all sorts of possibilities. So yeah, you definitely want complicated things underwater. And it's interesting, that becomes, again, a game. How do you detect things underwater?

new underwater sentries that can detect certain things and do certain things underwater too. I think you can use them as mines and stuff as well and all sorts of possibilities. So yeah, you definitely want complicated things underwater. And it's interesting, that becomes, again, a game. How do you detect things underwater?

new underwater sentries that can detect certain things and do certain things underwater too. I think you can use them as mines and stuff as well and all sorts of possibilities. So yeah, you definitely want complicated things underwater. And it's interesting, that becomes, again, a game. How do you detect things underwater?

It's very hard to detect things underwater, but there's a lot of new technologies where if you, for example, string fiber optics along the bottom of the water, then based on the gravimetric distortions, you can detect whales, you can detect all sorts of other things moving around. Mm-hmm. So I always wonder, like, how advanced is China in this area? How advanced are we in these areas?

It's very hard to detect things underwater, but there's a lot of new technologies where if you, for example, string fiber optics along the bottom of the water, then based on the gravimetric distortions, you can detect whales, you can detect all sorts of other things moving around. Mm-hmm. So I always wonder, like, how advanced is China in this area? How advanced are we in these areas?

It's very hard to detect things underwater, but there's a lot of new technologies where if you, for example, string fiber optics along the bottom of the water, then based on the gravimetric distortions, you can detect whales, you can detect all sorts of other things moving around. Mm-hmm. So I always wonder, like, how advanced is China in this area? How advanced are we in these areas?

It's a little scary because that's a way to detect the third part of the nuclear triad too easily right now.

It's a little scary because that's a way to detect the third part of the nuclear triad too easily right now.

It's a little scary because that's a way to detect the third part of the nuclear triad too easily right now.

And there are certain things we work on, even at some of these companies, I mentioned that they aren't putting into Ukraine, for example, because they don't want Russia and China to learn about them and learn how to respond to them, which is not my judgment, by the way, I'm not, I'm not in charge. So we're doing more to defend Ukraine, whatever.