Joe Lonsdale
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And it's, and then, and then they take things and it's really funny because they copy and they iterate on it and they, and they do steal. I mean, I'm not going to say which company, but one of our companies was like training open AI and anthropic on a certain very specific area where they'd measure them every week, give them, get feedback and get it ahead.
And they, and they got like certain scores and they really was open AI. They were doing it the most with, and they would score open AI and they got to the point where it's really good for what they needed. And then deep seat came out. This is when in China had their own AI that they trained and they said, Oh, that's interesting. Let's measure it. And they measured it in the six different areas.
And they, and they got like certain scores and they really was open AI. They were doing it the most with, and they would score open AI and they got to the point where it's really good for what they needed. And then deep seat came out. This is when in China had their own AI that they trained and they said, Oh, that's interesting. Let's measure it. And they measured it in the six different areas.
And they, and they got like certain scores and they really was open AI. They were doing it the most with, and they would score open AI and they got to the point where it's really good for what they needed. And then deep seat came out. This is when in China had their own AI that they trained and they said, Oh, that's interesting. Let's measure it. And they measured it in the six different areas.
And, and it was exactly the same scores as open AI from four months ago. And this is something they trained and iterated on to get there. So it's clear they just exfiltrated it, which is what China's good at.
And, and it was exactly the same scores as open AI from four months ago. And this is something they trained and iterated on to get there. So it's clear they just exfiltrated it, which is what China's good at.
And, and it was exactly the same scores as open AI from four months ago. And this is something they trained and iterated on to get there. So it's clear they just exfiltrated it, which is what China's good at.
It's really funny at Palantir, not funny, but serious too, obviously, because we're running these global information systems for 40 countries and tracking all these things. And I remember when I was still there a long time ago, there was a
It's really funny at Palantir, not funny, but serious too, obviously, because we're running these global information systems for 40 countries and tracking all these things. And I remember when I was still there a long time ago, there was a
It's really funny at Palantir, not funny, but serious too, obviously, because we're running these global information systems for 40 countries and tracking all these things. And I remember when I was still there a long time ago, there was a
PhD student who was Chinese, uh, who'd been friends with some of the people at our company and they caught him with like, like in server room, like with like inserting and stealing data and he, and he broke down crying and he said, you know, I have family in China. I didn't want to have to do this, but I'm worried for them. They kind of made me, and this was quite a long time.
PhD student who was Chinese, uh, who'd been friends with some of the people at our company and they caught him with like, like in server room, like with like inserting and stealing data and he, and he broke down crying and he said, you know, I have family in China. I didn't want to have to do this, but I'm worried for them. They kind of made me, and this was quite a long time.
PhD student who was Chinese, uh, who'd been friends with some of the people at our company and they caught him with like, like in server room, like with like inserting and stealing data and he, and he broke down crying and he said, you know, I have family in China. I didn't want to have to do this, but I'm worried for them. They kind of made me, and this was quite a long time.
It was fully infiltrated. And, uh, and well, in that case, like, like they didn't, didn't get it out. And then he, like, he left the country right away. And so, you know, and he went back to his family and, and like, it is interesting at that point on, you had to be really careful hiring people with family in China to work in any of the
It was fully infiltrated. And, uh, and well, in that case, like, like they didn't, didn't get it out. And then he, like, he left the country right away. And so, you know, and he went back to his family and, and like, it is interesting at that point on, you had to be really careful hiring people with family in China to work in any of the
It was fully infiltrated. And, uh, and well, in that case, like, like they didn't, didn't get it out. And then he, like, he left the country right away. And so, you know, and he went back to his family and, and like, it is interesting at that point on, you had to be really careful hiring people with family in China to work in any of the
government sensitive areas, of course, because they can just use the family against them. Ironically, when Peter Thiel then spoke out at the RNC for Trump in like 2016, Obama's justice department, a labor department right away sued Palantir for not hiring enough Asians. We had 25% Asians, but it wasn't enough. Which is just funny, though, because we couldn't hire people who were born in China.
government sensitive areas, of course, because they can just use the family against them. Ironically, when Peter Thiel then spoke out at the RNC for Trump in like 2016, Obama's justice department, a labor department right away sued Palantir for not hiring enough Asians. We had 25% Asians, but it wasn't enough. Which is just funny, though, because we couldn't hire people who were born in China.
government sensitive areas, of course, because they can just use the family against them. Ironically, when Peter Thiel then spoke out at the RNC for Trump in like 2016, Obama's justice department, a labor department right away sued Palantir for not hiring enough Asians. We had 25% Asians, but it wasn't enough. Which is just funny, though, because we couldn't hire people who were born in China.
And of course, they sued us for that. But DOD agreed with us, but Labor Party disagreed with us. The government doesn't always agree with itself.