Joe Lonsdale

You guys missed the Shalom Hamas tweet by Trump, too, which for a lot of us is a big deal. He said, I don't know if this is hello or goodbye, but he's threatening them really strongly. So for people who care about that part of the world, it's interesting to watch what's going to happen.

You guys missed the Shalom Hamas tweet by Trump, too, which for a lot of us is a big deal. He said, I don't know if this is hello or goodbye, but he's threatening them really strongly. So for people who care about that part of the world, it's interesting to watch what's going to happen.

Listen, Trump's negotiating, right? So I actually ran into David Sachs. Each Senator gets one guest. We were both guests in the Senate dining hall, hanging out with a bunch of these guys, multiple of the guests, Some of them were spouses of the senators. Multiple of the guests were people who had lost kids to fentanyl, right? And so it actually is a very serious issue.

Listen, Trump's negotiating, right? So I actually ran into David Sachs. Each Senator gets one guest. We were both guests in the Senate dining hall, hanging out with a bunch of these guys, multiple of the guests, Some of them were spouses of the senators. Multiple of the guests were people who had lost kids to fentanyl, right? And so it actually is a very serious issue.

It's a big thing on the populist right, as it should be for all Americans. We've lost tens of thousands of young people recently to fentanyl. And Canada has done nothing about their border. And so you just reported breaking news. I hadn't even heard yet that Mexico might be off. Canada's still on. He's using this to negotiate.

It's a big thing on the populist right, as it should be for all Americans. We've lost tens of thousands of young people recently to fentanyl. And Canada has done nothing about their border. And so you just reported breaking news. I hadn't even heard yet that Mexico might be off. Canada's still on. He's using this to negotiate.

So I talked to the senators and I asked him what's going on, because obviously I import things all over the place. I'd like to know what the hell the rules are. But he wants people to actually crack down on this stuff and save American lives. And I think that's a reasonable thing to use to negotiate and force them to do that.

So I talked to the senators and I asked him what's going on, because obviously I import things all over the place. I'd like to know what the hell the rules are. But he wants people to actually crack down on this stuff and save American lives. And I think that's a reasonable thing to use to negotiate and force them to do that.

No, listen, I agree with what David with what David was saying, Jason, and it's a really important point. Also, that we should mention is that the last four years, the economy's looked okay. But part of that is because government's been hiring like mad.

No, listen, I agree with what David with what David was saying, Jason, and it's a really important point. Also, that we should mention is that the last four years, the economy's looked okay. But part of that is because government's been hiring like mad.

And so the point he made is that actually, you know, having twice as many people, you know, harassing me, I just got back yesterday, no action on an audit that's been harassing me on for three years, they found nothing. Having twice as many people doing things like that or running TSA or pushing papers around in the Department of Labor doesn't actually add output to the economy.

And so the point he made is that actually, you know, having twice as many people, you know, harassing me, I just got back yesterday, no action on an audit that's been harassing me on for three years, they found nothing. Having twice as many people doing things like that or running TSA or pushing papers around in the Department of Labor doesn't actually add output to the economy.

And so it does seem like it makes a lot of sense. Let's take a million workers out of the consulting class around D.C., out of the paper pusher class around D.C., and let's actually deploy them to the actual productive economy. Elon and Trump have both been saying that. I think David's 100% right. It is true. A lot of my companies, thanks to the tariff stuff, are looking to build stuff here.

And so it does seem like it makes a lot of sense. Let's take a million workers out of the consulting class around D.C., out of the paper pusher class around D.C., and let's actually deploy them to the actual productive economy. Elon and Trump have both been saying that. I think David's 100% right. It is true. A lot of my companies, thanks to the tariff stuff, are looking to build stuff here.

So I'm not a huge fan of tariffs personally, but they definitely make sense for things in defense. They definitely make sense for negotiating with countries. And it is true. It is pushing certain people, including me, to build some more things in America.

So I'm not a huge fan of tariffs personally, but they definitely make sense for things in defense. They definitely make sense for negotiating with countries. And it is true. It is pushing certain people, including me, to build some more things in America.

And Shamath, there's another twist on that too, which I think we should all acknowledge is that America does have some really tough environmental laws. Despite what Jason may think of me, I actually don't want my daughters growing up with messy air, messy water, screwed up country. Oh, I don't think that of you.

And Shamath, there's another twist on that too, which I think we should all acknowledge is that America does have some really tough environmental laws. Despite what Jason may think of me, I actually don't want my daughters growing up with messy air, messy water, screwed up country. Oh, I don't think that of you.

But here's the thing, in China and Indonesia and all these other countries, they are just over the environment as they make things. I think tariffs are very reasonable in that case. It's not fair to make it more expensive for us because we're doing it well, and then we outsource it for them to destroy things. So there are some things there where it does make sense.

But here's the thing, in China and Indonesia and all these other countries, they are just over the environment as they make things. I think tariffs are very reasonable in that case. It's not fair to make it more expensive for us because we're doing it well, and then we outsource it for them to destroy things. So there are some things there where it does make sense.