Joe Lynam

So by any view or any sense, that's a quantum change in the skills that are required.

Well, I think on those harder skills, like the applied leadership that's required for innovation and for transformation.

And there's a few worrying signals, I must say.

If we go back to 2023, May of 23, the OECD said that Ireland is falling behind in terms of digital skills.

and in terms of lifelong learning.

And so you put a tiny little device in the drip before it's injected into the spine.

And it mentioned areas like Scandinavia, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, as getting ahead of Ireland.

Is that it?

Now, that's a worry.

And especially if you look at that from an FDI perspective, those same jurisdictions, and we can add Germany to that, and they're really winning some fantastic mandates over recent years.

And you need for that, of course, a super clean room environment.

That's the first signal.

I think the second signal, more generally, is the Mario Draghi report from a year ago now, a wonderful report about

And now you're creating this new climate neutral manufacturing facility in Cork.

Tell us more about that.

That's exactly what it did.

And, you know, just earlier this month, he said that Europe continues to make life hard for itself.

And that's one year after the publication of his report.

Not a lot.

I think in some areas like defence, there have been strides, but more generally, it's a typical European approach where everything is well thought through and time is taken to ponder it.