Joe Malloy

Put it to myself and Ronan.

Put it to the co, the duo and co.

I think, I mean, when Ireland are showing different pictures of the opposition and they're not winning the contestables, I think getting stronger at the breakdown.

For no reason.

We were talking about football.

It's not about lions.

Oh, nightmare.

It's devastating.

It's dreadful news for Ireland as well.

You know, if we do, obviously we're planning the World Cup.

And they play together quite often as well, you know, and they can play together.

There is something very, very selfish, you know, from the last camp where Ferguson was injured and Hamer's hand was forced and he played part when he said he wouldn't have and he kept them on when he might not have if Ferguson was available.

There was something clean about this camp as well where it was like, right, Ferguson...

and I wonder if a better word isn't going to be a distraction isn't going to tease him and to take him powered off when he can score in a 96 minutes but obviously for a World Cup campaign that we're preparing for now you know to go deep into into the World Cup like we're going to need everybody and it's just to go deep into the World Cup what are you doing?

We've lost all our moral high ground here.

I know.

But, and obviously for Ferguson, I mean, obviously Aaron hasn't been to the World Cup since 2002.

That was my main thought.

Will we get back in his whole playing career?

Yeah.