Joe Molloy

So he's saying about things that,

It's all been very strange.

The last 10 years have been very complicated because of what my family have suffered.

He's talking about the court case, which, you know, all this has taken 10 years to wash out.

They see what's in the papers, what people say about you, the global discussion.

I was never preoccupied about the final decision because I knew I wasn't guilty.

I knew at the end there would be nothing.

And I always felt fine in myself.

He says of Seth Blatter, Blatter wanted to die in the job, never wanted to leave.

He doesn't, interestingly, include Gianni Infantino as one of the people who stabbed him in the back.

He was asked, you know, who stabbed you in the back?

And he just sort of says the administration.

For them, the soup was very good.

They earned a lot of money.

They didn't want me in charge of FIFA in case I changed things.

They were afraid of me.

But he says Infantino was not one of the people who stabbed him in the back.

He actually said Infantino was pushing him to be FIFA president so that Infantino could take over at UEFA.

So there was self-interest on Infantino's part, but he didn't stab Platini in the back.

And then finally just asked about what he makes of FIFA now, what he makes of Infantino.