Joe Molloy

And then finally just asked about what he makes of FIFA now, what he makes of Infantino.

He says of Gianni, he was a good number two at UEFA.

He's not a good number one.

He worked well at UEFA, but he has one problem.

He likes rich and powerful people, the ones with money.

It's his character.

He was like that as a number two, but back then he wasn't the boss.

And he said, Infantino has become an autocrat since the pandemic.

There is less democracy than in Sepp Blatter's FIFA.

And yeah, he predicts again, big change coming in European football, Super Club, Super League type thing is going to come again.

And of the last decade, is he peeved or whatever?

He was pretty sanguine.

He says, no, I've enjoyed my life, enjoyed this time.

Mentally, I was calm, travelled a lot, did new things, time with friends and family.

I didn't lose anything.

And so that's Michel Totini.

I kind of just haven't thought about him in a long time.

He's done, yeah.

But if you take Platini's story of his word and, you know, the 1.5 million, which kind of precipitated the fall, like it's pretty wishy-washy for that sum of money to have.

I'll do some work for you in 1999, 2001, 2002.