Joe Nocera

You obviously have some contact with these guys or this guy.

So you're going to be my intermediary.

So Lindbergh is all in with Jafsy.

So Lindbergh becomes all in with Jafsy.

Well, with somebody.

He has two meetings in two different cemeteries.

Jafsy's conducting all of his business in cemeteries.

Yes, that's right.

In the first meeting, supposedly, and by the way, I should just say for the record, Jafsy is a major bullshitter.

But he's the only person that you have who's on record.

So you have to, at some point, assume he's not completely making it up.

So he has his first meeting with the kidnapper.

They have a long discussion.

Japsy says, you've got to prove to me that you have the baby.

You have to send me the baby's nightgown that he had the night he was kidnapped.

Send the nightgown to the Lindberghs.

So that happens.

So then Jafsy meets again at a second cemetery in the Bronx.

And this time Lindbergh goes with him, but Lindbergh stays in a car.

And Jafsy has the ransom money in a box.