Joe Opio

Now, if someone says, I've been in the last six years on 25 cruises and I'm not a cruise worker, not a captain of a ship.

I've been the captain though.

I am the captain now.

I've been the captain now.

That would require, in the way you're saying there's a certain happiness, you know, like why he's happy, the questions you've been asking, you know, that would require some deep analysis.

Do you know what I mean?

It's not a simple thing.

So what is it?

Okay.

So one quick thing is when you have a Ugandan passport, every airport you go to, you're almost taken to a corner randomly just for some questions.

A cruise, you can move to multiple countries while avoiding that hassle of waiting at the airport, being taken out of line, having to apply for visas because some cruises, most cruises actually are, if you're on a cruise ship, you don't need a visa because they expect you to come back on the ship.

So it's a very...

efficient and great way to travel to different countries without the hassle.

But also, I come from a landlocked country.

I've never encountered big waters like that.

We have a lake, we have a river, but that's it.

So when I came, I went like, oh, this is amazing.

And then I also don't like, you know this about me, I don't like the minor stresses of thinking about food and this.

And the cruise ship basically, it's like a kindergarten, but for travelers.

Everything is catered for.