Joe Posnanski

to see if we could get, like the rats were in the maze and it was, can you find the Hertz cheese at the end of it?

What was the question?

I forget now because of the hostility.

You said, was there a place we went that was what?

Yeah, I think and Mike Ryan is in the book as as one of my Sherpas because I had we had a challenge in the book where I made Joe do something he didn't want to do.

And Joe made me do something I didn't want to do.

And the thing that I had to do was go to WrestleMania in Las Vegas, and I needed help.

And so I called upon

the expertise of Mike Ryan Ruiz, who like came and sat with me in the sports book of a hotel as I asked him like the most basic questions about wrestling, because I know nothing about wrestling.

And at one point I was like, OK, so tonight John Cena is trying to become the heavyweight champion.

And he was like, that's correct.

and i was like has he ever been the heavyweight champion before mike was like he has been the heavyweight champion 16 times he was so patient he was very very patient with me mike thank you for your patience and he very calmly walked me through a bunch of dumb questions and then at the end he gave me incredible advice which was he i was like what do i need to know about the storylines what do i what am i walking into here and he said you don't need to know anything just enjoy it

And it ended up being like the my approach to the whole event was like, OK, I'm just going to enjoy this.

And lo and behold, I actually kind of really did.

I really enjoyed it.

And it was it was I was very grateful for your help, Mike.

Dumbest?

I mean, honestly, it sounds Pollyanna-ish.

I don't think any of it was dumb.

I mean, Joe still hates pickleball, if that matters to you.