Joe Rogan (host) [primary speaker]
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He was doing a debate about Russia and Ukraine, and he said one of the ways to incentivize Russia to stop attacking Ukraine is if we left NATO.
say that ukraine is not going to join nato but we're going to leave nato and i was like whoa what would be the repercussions of that though who knows we would just be well look at the repercussions of being a part of it look at the repercussions of what's going on right now because you know dave is the best at explaining and he'll credit scott horton and a lot of other people but dave is really good at recalling information explaining how
The whole red line with Putin was Ukraine joining NATO.
And they kept moving NATO-based countries.
They kept moving weapons closer and closer to Russia.
The whole thing was like they're baiting him to do this.
I just get so suspicious of military activity because I know that there's always going to be bad people in the world that you have to send good people to go fight.
That's always going to be the case, right?
The clearest, most pure version of that for us is always World War II.
We go over there and kill the Nazis.
The whole United States gets together.