Joe Rogan (host) [primary speaker]

What?

Huh?

Yeah.

He's obliterated.

But believing that that guy's okay is the same thing as believing that this gay porn star who's a hypnotist is really like –

You know what's really wild about the documentary?

He had this thing that he would do to them called the knowing, and you had to earn it somehow.

You had to be on the right path for long enough, and he would give you this thing where he would –

It was a ritual.

And during the ritual, he would put his hands on you.

And to this day, the people that had it, even the people that complained about him were in the documentary talking about this guy was just evil and manipulative.

They said that in that moment, they felt God.

Wow.

When his hands were upon him.

I mean, he's really intense.

These intense burning eyes.

He puts his hands on their knees and they're like.

So it's like there was an endogenous release of psychedelic chemicals that was through this moment, this ritual thing, the power of suggestion and whatever the vibe that the two of them have, clearly hypnosis as well.

Yeah.

He locks on to this person and these people are like...