Joe Rogan

And it's been shown that these vaccines have caused serious injuries and death to people that didn't need them.

I would say you cause death, especially if you're a person that people hold in very high esteem, for someone that people respect their opinion and take it very seriously and would refer to them as an expert.

I would only say he is if he's saying that I am.

Right.

That's— It's not something that I would go out and say.

I wouldn't— Right.

I would agree with that.

I think Sam has a real problem with admitting wrong.

Admitting you're wrong requires you to admit that you're fallible, that your intellectual rigor in pursuing this very complex scenario that we all find ourselves in that's very novel, you made errors.

You trusted establishments that were compromised.

You trusted experts who were incentivized to deliver this propaganda that this was the only way out of this.

You had to get vaccinated.

And I think a lot of it was he had an initial experience with someone that he knew that had got COVID that got very sick and was a young, healthy person, was a skier, relatively young in Italy.

And I don't know what treatment they got.

I don't know what the situation was.

I do know that supposedly they had been heavily drinking while they were there, like on a ski trip, getting drunk, get COVID, got really sick.

um and wind up getting very fucked up by it um i think that scared him and i think he was initially he was one of the bigger like the people that i was in contact with that was warning me that this is not the flu this is really dangerous and um

I took it to heart.

And like I've publicly said many times, I was not just willing to get the vaccine.

I tried to get it.