Joe Rogan

It's like one of the things that I've said about this podcast is like one of the most unexpected things about it is this education that I've got.

in talking to people, not just like listening to their stories and listening to whatever their expertise is, but it's also just the learning how to talk to people.

Because you're sitting here for three hours or whatever it is with no distractions and no interruptions.

And because of that, you learn this sort of ebb and flow of human conversation.

So for me, it's so hard to have a bad conversation.

When I'm out with people that are bad at having conversations, to me, it's fucking painful.

It's like, oh, God.

It drives me crazy.

Watching people talk over people, watching people that aren't listening.

They're just waiting for their time to talk.

Right.

Not connecting with a single person.

It's a trap.

It's a real trap because you're getting input.

There's some input.

There's some words that come from a person, I guess.

But there's no human.

We're designed to talk to each other this way.

The spiritual fulfillment, the psychological fulfillment that comes from talking to a human being and making a genuine connection and understanding more about that person.

And then by also doing that, you understand more about yourself.