Joe Rogan

There's a writer, Avi Levinowitz, who talks about this.

And the way he described it is that it's like processed food.

You're getting processed information.

And instead of real information, like on social media, you're getting this processed thing that's boiled down with no nutrients in it, but you keep eating.

consuming it because you're so hungry because you're not getting the real thing.

You're just stuffing your mind with process information.

I think that's an apt way to put it because that's really what's going on.

It's like we all want real connection.

We're just worried.

We're worried that someone's going to reject us.

We're worried that someone's going to be rude to us.

We're worried that someone's judging us, that someone's going to think they're better than us or that they're going to

think we lack or whatever it is.

There's a thing that we all hunger for.

And I think for a lot of people, what they get, if they don't have it near them, if they haven't done what you've done and found a great group of friends,

They can get it through podcasts.

They can get it through people talking and communicating and being real and being interested and being curious and learning and just being cool to each other.

And it's heartwarming.

It's like it fills something in you that we're missing because we're being poisoned by these fucking devices.

What's it called, the Dove Awards?