Joe Santagato

If you go to see Big Ben, you have also been to London because of where it is.

I'm not arguing that point.

I'm arguing you trying to make the— That's what I'm arguing.

No, you're arguing that, like, that's the same.

That if you've seen—if you drove by the Empire State Building, then you've seen the Empire State Building.

Yes, you've seen it, but you— But I'm saying, like, if you drive— Have I been to the Empire State Building?

But it's not the same as a whole city.

I'm not saying the whole city counts.

You're saying that you need to see like multiple places in a city to count having been there.

I'm saying there's a difference between driving through a state and being in a state and experiencing the state.

I'm going to bash my head against this desk.

Yes, I have.

Driving through places is not being in them.

Like, I disagree.

Do you think this lighting rig will support me

I mean, I don't know.

To me, that's wild to assume that.

And you were on his side with the connecting.

You guys thinking that counts as being a place is wild.

We are on another part of this.