Joe Way

They're actually much more.

Here's my takeaway.

Sorry, you asked a question.

But takeaway from ISE this year was I was very impressed with the major control manufacturers all being like there wasn't a lot of new gear, but there was a we're going to play well in everybody else's sandboxes now.

That wasn't the case a few years ago.

So even if you are a certain ecosystem, they're now all willing to work with others and open up and play, which you as a programmer, God, that's gotta feel good to have that kind of freedom.

Not to just go advocate to your bosses to say, hey, let me do some of that and look at the value I can bring in X, Y, Z. So-

That was a long answer to your short question.

Yep, 100%.

Yeah, you can find me at Josiah Way on all the socials or the dot com.

And of course, you can find me on the HEPMA community, HEPMA.org.

So jump on there and go to UCLA.edu.

Search our newsroom.

You'll see all the stuff about the project we're doing.

And every now and then I put out a Hired AB podcast episode.

I'm four days late on this one.

I recorded it.

I just haven't posted it.

Okay.

So by the time people are listening to this, I'll just be delayed on that another one.