Joe Way

And being in my, you know, going back to what you said about, yeah, I'm a very public figure, right?

I have the reputation.

I've got all of that stuff.

But it can't also just be the Joe show, right?

I can set a vision and where I sit, I can get the resources for it to happen.

But I want to bring people in.

And I told this to my five direct reports.

I said, by the way, I'm the head of this organization, but this is your project.

I don't care what product you pick.

I don't care what, like, this is on you.

Every one of those, so fun fact, even when we did our RFP, I recused myself from a vote.

I didn't, I just worked with procurement to manage, you know, the ins and outs of the submissions.

I didn't even have a vote myself because I had to say, how am I gonna, I gotta turn this over to those people and empower them to take the vision and go do it.

And I think that was actually one of the keys of success.

We found that I do much better and I show my most value when I do nothing.

Most people knew that all along.

It just took me to get there.

But that's – yeah, anyway.

Mm-hmm.

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